VAIO CLASS ACTION SUIT - power unit

Tuesday, March 08, 2005

SONY VAIO POWER UNIT FLAW - CLASS ACTION SUIT

To Publish your comments mail to FUVaio@gmail.com

Sony VAIO laptops have had a critical design failure from around 1998 onwards. From our observations the flaw has been many folds, and response from Sony has been dismal to say the least.

I myself bought a Sony VIAO in 1999 and in 6 months it lost its total power capabilities. When I contacted Sony their minimum 'seeing' charge was $275 plus shipment. In a few cases where they did provide a solution it was the replacement of the whole mother board - a charge of $900 plus depending on what model of VAIO you have.

SONY Vaio's has an inherent defect that warants this class action:

1. Sony design integrated the power unit into the motherboard.
This is an inherent design flaw that requires the replacement of the whole
motherboard if the power unit malfunctions.
Almost every other laptop manufacturer has a modular approach to the pwoer unit.
So if your power unit malfunctions you only have to replace the power unit.
Common Sense one would presume - is getting most uncommon at Sony.

2. The Sony Vaio power unit has a design flaw as it malfunctions.
This is evident from the large number of VAIO's that came in for this one single
purpose, this was stated by a Fry's serviceperson in 1999 when inquired if they
saw many Vaio's come in for repair.

3. Sony has known this for a long time and has taken no action.
It cannot be possible with all these complaints for the VAIO power units that
Sony did not realize that their whole design was flawed. I have personally
written to Sony, and have received no reply whatsowever.

4. Include an email of Senior Sony directors both for US and Japan.
If you have some please attach on this blog, so we can all mutully send this
complaint directly so they cannot refute it.

5. My original aim was to replace my Laptop.
I bought my laptop for $1700 for my son, and have regretted it ever since. It is
too expensive to firstly give me problems, and secondly to not be listened for.
In my opinion prime prices must demand prime service. I bought the unit new at
Fry's in Oregon while on a client project there. The unit gave me problems after
13 months and Fry's gives gaurantees for ony 30 days, and Sony only 12 months.

7. I have now banned Sony from my House.
I used to be a Sony fan. I had Sony TV, VCR, Sound System, Speakers, Cam corder,
Digital Camera.
Now, and my son supports me in this. I am still stuck with a Sony TV, but I
replaced my VCR with Panasonic, my Sound System with other makes and recently
when I bought my Minim Digital Camera I bought a Canon and found a much higher
customer satisfaction after a global web survey, especially in the service
sector - does not surprise me.

8. If we all stop buying SONY products maybe they will listen to their customers
Sony was a customer driven company and I remember this clearly. If I took a Sony
product to any dealer they would change, look into the problem, service, it
almost free if it was evident the damage was not due to my neglegence.
Infact when I was posted to Saudi Arabia, for a short stint, Sony would even send
their service technicians to the house, and service free of cost if the fault was
in their component.
For me this created a strong loyalty and commitment.

We must all join hands, for according to the new CAFA (Class Action Fairness Act) of 2005 we shall need 100 persons to participate in this for it to be deemed as a class action suit.

I have been rather lazy about this but with my recent discovery of Blogs, I am rejuvinated to this effort of collecting Sony VIAO disfunctional data.

If you know any friend, or even foe, who has, or has had a problem with their SONY Vaio, please lead them to this site for entering their comments and data.

The following is the list of people who I have already received from:



Hari Guleria
FUVaio@gmail.com


My Original Complaint to Sony (I have still to receive response)
Site complaint registered: http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/pc/email.html:

COMPLAINT AND INFORMATION NEEDED

I BOUGHT A SONY VIAO FOR $1800, FROM FRY'S, AND AFTER 11 MONTHS THE LAPTOP BEGAN TO GIVE TROUBLE. THIS LAPTOP ALWAYS STAYED ON MY DESK AND HAS NEVER MOVED OR TRAVELED LIKE MY OTHER LAPTOPS. THIS IS MY PERSONAL LAPTOP.
I HAVE RECOMMENDED VIAO TO QUITE A FEW FRIENDS.

I RECENTLY HAD SOME STARTUP PROBLEMS, AS THE MACHINE WENT DEAD, UPON TAKING IT TO FRYS FOR THE SOFTWARE PROBLEM I WAS DOWN $85.00 AND TOLD TO REINSTALL THE SOFTWARE WHICH I DID.
DURING THEIR CHECKUP I HAD MY POWER CONNECTOR DAMAGED, OR SO I THOUGHT FOR EVEN THOUGH THE POWER CHORD WAS IN THE 10 MINUTE POWER WARNINGS WOULD BEGIN TO FLASH. I MANAGED FOR A DAY OR TWO BY PLACING THE POWER CHORD TO THE RIGHT AND EVEN THEN IT WOULD GO DEAD ON ME.
THUS I TOOK IT BACK IN 15 DAYS TO FRYS, ONLY TO BE TOLD THAT THEY WOULD CHARGE AN ADDITIONAL $185 TO JUST SEE THE PROBLEM, AND THEN CHARGE ON TOP OF THAT.
I DECLINED AND WAS CATAGORICALLY TOLD, AND LATER FOUND OUT, THAT SONY HAS A DEFECTIVE POWER BOARD THAT SITS ON THE MOTHER BOARD.

THIS IS A MANUFACTURING DEFECT FOR THE REPAIR PERSON AT FRYS SAID THIS WAS THE THIRD SONY LAPTOP TO COME IN WITH A DEFECTIVE POWER COMPONENT LIKE MINE IN THE LAST ONE WEEK ALONE.

I SEE THIS AS A MANUFACTURING DEFECT AND LOOK TOWARDS SONY FOR EITHER REPLACING THIS LAPTOP/ OT THE MOTHERBOARD WITH A RECTIFIED ONE, OR SENDING ME A LIST OF ALL THE SONY LAPTOPS THAT HAVE COME IN WITH DEFECTIVE POWER CHORDS/CONNECTORS.

PLEASE EMAIL ME AT HARIGULERIA@HOTMAIL.COM

i SHALL LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOUR SIDE IN THE NEXT 7 TO 15 DAYS AS I HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON MY LAPTOP. I LOOK FORWARD TO SONY BEING CUSTOMER CENTRIC AND PROVIDING A SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM .

BEST REGARDS

HARI GULERIA
FUVaio@gmail.com

112 Comments:

At 11:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

my Vaio is old now- PCG-N505SN- but is very small and cute. And the battery hasn't been working for a very long time- it says 94% battery lifetime left to run but the machine won't recharge it or run off it.

 
At 9:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Sony Laptop FX300 same problems. Started at my 13th month of owning it. EMail me and I will help out in any way I can.

 
At 1:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My PCG-F560 (purchased in 2000) had problems from the first week I bought it. The customer service people were a mess and after an hour on the phone with a useless tech support person I had to spend 2 hours with a senior tech advisor to "fix" a brand new laptop. The computer went dead and would not turn back on, but after various different instructions, and finally reinstalling everything and removing the battery, it worked. Since then, most of the critical keys on the keyboard will not work (DLT, SHIFT, dash, number six, etc). Also, the battery will not charge and the laptop will only work with the power cord plugged in. If I unplug it, the computer immediately dies. Also, the computer will from time to time start repeatedly rebooting on its own. I am not sure why this computer had so many problems from the get go, but I wish I had been wise enough to return it and get a MAC!

 
At 9:18 PM, Anonymous Tina Manwiller said...

I have a PCG-FX120 that has had similar problems from the very beginning.

 
At 10:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a computer consultant. I have now 3 notebooks with the same problem. I have a PCG-GRT150, a PCG-GRT160 and VGN-S260P.

The symptoms are.

Power LED is on. Battery LED is on. Hard drive and CD-Rom spins up, the screen is OFF. On the PCG-GRT series notebook the memory stick led briefly blinks when power is pressed.

 
At 10:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a computer consultant. I have now 3 notebooks with the same problem. I have a PCG-GRT150, a PCG-GRT160 and VGN-S260P.

The symptoms are.

Power LED is on. Battery LED is on. Hard drive and CD-Rom spins up, the screen is OFF. On the PCG-GRT series notebook the memory stick led briefly blinks when power is pressed.

 
At 1:42 PM, Anonymous micchii said...

green light turns on when i press the power button, but vaio doesn't start up. Screen is black, and nothing happens. I have to shut down pc forcefully.
I repeat this action until vaio starts windows.
VGN s150( I have used this only for 1 year )

 
At 8:10 AM, Blogger izzy706 said...

Same exavt problem with my pcg grz 610. Never buy sony!!!!!!!!!

 
At 1:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a vaio vgn-fs680/w and also having a problem with it booting. I would push the power button just to see the lights lit up and no other action from the rest of the device. Just to pay this much money for this type of defect where it can't even be fixed is just a crock of crap. I'm definately on the verge in getting rid of every sony product I have and joining this sony sucks club myself.

 
At 10:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sony VAIO PCG-933A
Two years now it has not run off batteries. It say's both are at 100% but they might as well not be there.

 
At 1:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

PCG-GRT240G, After 3years of normal use I have the same problem with teh power cord connected to the motherboard. Why did they do it this way? I spent $2000 for this laptop with the intention to keep it for 5years.

 
At 1:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bought my sony vaio from Fry's. we should sue them both as Fry's salespeople donot warn us that Sony laptops have alot of problems that start 1 year later.

 
At 8:16 PM, Blogger faruk said...

VGN-S170B
I have the same problem. Battery won't charge but it is not the battery it is the power unit which charges battery and feeds mother board. Warranty is expired so there is nothing I can do. I will put it in trash and go buy a macintosh this week.

 
At 9:32 PM, Blogger Jeremy Work said...

I have a PCG-GRT100P and it just randomly died, and will not start at all. No signs of life.

 
At 8:18 AM, Anonymous Mike said...

VGN-FS640/W One month after the warrente expired it broke. Aparently the Ram comes appart from the motherboard. They wanted me to pay for the shipping and the repairs. So I go look online and find tons of other people with the same problem. Sony has know about these defects and continues selling these crappy comps and getting suckers to pay them half what they paid for it originally to fix it a year later! I would never buy a sony product again or recomend one.

 
At 11:15 PM, Blogger Leandro said...

I have a sony vaio VGN-GE790 which has given me all types of head aches. I had the motherboard replaced three times, keyboard once and my unit was sent to the sony repair center, all of this in a period of 1,5 year. Last time I sent my computer they fixed the power supply plug and damaged my volume keys, I called and asked them to sent a technician to fix it on site and they want me to pay for that. That is rediculous.... so I am in for a class action law suit...

 
At 1:52 AM, Anonymous Gary Li said...

I have bought three Vaio cost me £5000 pounds. One of them still going but other two both has power failure in little more than one year. I reject Vaio now and tell all my friends not to buy vaio.

 
At 2:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Almost two years to the day...The Vaio powers up for 2-10 seconds then loses power. I tried a different powerblock, but found so many similar problems that I don't need to dance through Sony's hoops in order to realize they will charge me nearly the price of a new computer to fix a problem that was their fault to begin with.

 
At 5:10 PM, Blogger M. said...

I have a nice looking vgn-n130g/w - It stopped being able to start up on its 13th month of usage... Power led and battery led come on, that is it... I am stationed overseas with the military, so Sony says I have to send it to San Diego for repair with an estimated cost of $99 for diagnostics and $699 for the mother board.

 
At 4:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a SONY laptop .It has the same problem ,the power unit int he mother board does not work . The laptop is just a year old.

I am told by sony authorised repair ceentre that its better to buy a new one as the cost of repair would be high .

SONY SUCKS .

vikash
INDIA

 
At 10:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a Sony Vaio VGN-N130G/W that won't power up .I've only had it for a couple yrs.I got it just before Vista came out.

I deffinetly won't be buying another Sony laptop nor a TV for sure .I have an uncle that had a TV go belly up 1 day after the warranty expired and sony wasn't willing to help him out in any way,

 
At 10:41 PM, Blogger Srini said...

My VGN-CR353 is about 7 months old. SInce about a month I am noticing that the screen blacks out and laptop is totally shut-down.

I am shocked that so many others are facing the same problem

Let me approach the Sony service centre and see what they can do.

 
At 6:47 AM, Anonymous Jatin Shah said...

Sony Vaio VGN-N130G/W

I bought a Vaio VGN 130G in 2007 from atlanta,GA and i encountered the same problem.

My Monitor would not switch on and i thought my battery is gone, after buying a new one i understood that my IC was gone.

When i gave it to service center they said the whole mother board is burnt.

This is a worst cheap trick tht they doing.

We are infact buying one of de most expensive brands in the market it should have been the other way round.

I am finding an option to get my money back. This sucks :(.

Is there anything tht i can do from my part and well all people here on this site get our funds back?

Is there any gov greivence site tht takes care of this fraud?

 
At 4:28 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We also bought a Sony VgnFZ190, Series 300 for our son for college. We paid $1800.00. First the motherboard needed to be replaced. The second repair was for hardware failure. The wireless Lan card would not install. The third time in was for overheating and the fan ran very loud. Now Sony is saying they want a Service Net Buyout of the Extended Service Plan. They are subtracting the cost of repairs from the original price and want to pay us $750.00. We paid $1800.00 and bought a Service Plan. For what? To get $750.00 back? If anyone needs help, please let us know.

 
At 9:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a SONY VAIO MODEL # PCG-GRT100P. I am on my 4th repair for the power plug in the back of the unit. It would be nice if SONY made good on it's product.

 
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At 9:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My Sony VAIO - it is a GRZ model number - has started doing this. I found this page while searching for a solution. Sometimes I can press the power-on button intermittently for hours and the computer will not turn on: the green light goes on momentarily but the screen stays black and the operating system does not boot. Then for no reason at all it will turn on. I have to leave it on 24/7 because of this problem. I'm very disappointed in Sony.

 
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At 1:20 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have 2 and a half years old Sony VAIO VGN-CR 307. It stopped charging the battery, so I replaced with new one. However it just does not charge at all. It is sitting on my kitchen table now. I am not gona spend any dime on this stupid piece of junk. I am going to get iPad.

 
At 6:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

VAIO VGN-N130G (laptop is about 3.5 years old)- for the past few weeks, my screen will just go black, for no apearent reason. Nothing brings it back to life. I have to hold down the PWR button to shut down, then turn it back on. I'm done with Sony products for good. 11/30/2010

 
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